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T O P I C R E V I E Wneptune5I was wondering if anyone has any of those old classic aspects and positions that make them selfless (the opposite of selfish).well i haveMoon/6th sextile neptune/5thMoon/6th trine pluto/3rdSun/4th trine chiron/11thPluto/3rd trine chiron/11thJupiter/12th Trine part of fortune/4thVenus/4th conjunct Part of Fortune/4thChiron sextile MidheavenNeptune Trine AcendantVenus sextile CeresMercury Trine AphroditePluto/3rd conjunct Amor(unconditional love) in ScorpioMoon in pisces in 6th of AquariusStellium in 4thVertex in 6th house(in my solar return for this year in my life, i have moon conjunct chiron in aquarius in 6th, with 6th cusp being Capricorn and Saturn in my 1st house of leo.)------------------Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil GibranSalisahmmmm.... I've got.....Sun trine jupiterSun quincux SaturnSun contra-parallel neptuneMoon square neptuneMoon quincux ACVenus trine neptune Ac trine neptuneMC quincux neptuneChiron in 10th houseChiron sextile moonChiron trine jupiterAmor trine moonAmor sextile MCAmor quincux neptuneAmor square venusVirgo ACGrand trine: neptune,AC,Venus Its fine being selfless and all the jazz but in my quest to help others I often become a door mat.... sigh....Maire31I haven't a clue what the classic aspects are for selflessness, other than maybe something to do with Pisces.However I noticed Nep that you have 4th House Part of Fortune. I do as well and it is EXACTLY conjunct the IC, like it's off by like 10 seconds.Anyway~ I've always wondered what the significance of PF conjunct IC meant. You always see it conjunct the MC and it's great to have it there...do you know about it's meaning re the IC? Heck, even the 4th house meaning. Anything I've ever seen is kinda vague.Thanks for your help.M31neptune5Well the IC is the house of the soul, one of the major angles, here let me break it down:AC - Personality; AppearanceIC - Roots, Home, Soul, Ancestry, Private StandingDC - Primary Relationships, MarriagesMC - Career, Public Standing, Status------------------Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil GibranGemini NymphI'm a selfless person turned selfish. I had to to survive my childhood. Pisces moon and Pisces 7th house basically means people treat me like crap unless I stand up for myself.My NN is in Aqua and the 6th, which means I should strive to be a selfless person and be of service to others and society. I have to find that balance though, between selfless for the sake of my personal growth and happiness, and being selfish enough for my own well-being and self-perservation.teaologistI'm not selfless. But I need to get to that pt sometime before I die, or else I'll get reincarnated into a cockroach, for real...My NN is in the 11th in Gem. Must learn to listen better... gather insight and apply it toward some kind of community project? Maybe through communications or something...The 6th house is on the opp. end of my T-sq, so if I don't keep busy helping ppl, I might as well implode or drown in self-pity.Maire31Thanks Nep, but can you say anything about the PF's influence on my roots, home, soul, ancestry, private standing?Does it infer these areas will be highly fortunate? I can see how my mother was a phenomenal blessing in this life of mine. I've always been one to embrace, never regret anything I've been through b/c I'm so happy where I am in my life the majority of the time, I figure if anything in the past was different, I wouldn't be this fortunate. Know what I mean?Sorry to be so dense about it. LOLM31Maire31Been pondering the selfless aspect stuff. I'm gonna take a stab at it...I think I vaccillate between, here's what I think.Selfish: (first of course, lol) 8th house Aries Sun/Merc trine 11th Leo MarsPluto conj Asc. inconjunct Sun/Merc10th house Cancer Moon Uranus opp VenusVirgo risingJupiter square Moon (out of sign, 8 deg orb)Selfless: Grand trine/Kite, Water, Moon, Neptune, Chiron, kite point:Pluto opp ChironVirgo rising/Pisces DCAqua Saturn 6thPisces Venus 6thPisces Chiron 7thDon't know if any of those are "classic" aspects, but they feel that way to me.neptune5i'm virgo rising and i'm not selfish, maybe its my moon opp AC to brighten it up.yes maire it does have to do with being highly fortunate in those area's, including the person with that position possessing an extraordinary soul, capable of great things to offer the world.------------------Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil GibranMaire31Wow, almost missed your response Nep!About Virgo Asc. I listed it as selfish in terms of being so critical and exacting. I suppose I see those as selfish qualities, at least in myself. I also listed it as selfless for the obvious reasons of service, healing, etc.Thank you so much for making such a beautifully profound statement about PF conjunct IC &/or 4th house. Really, you touched my spirit with your words. Still bathing in the vibes. Just beautiful. M31neptune5Thank you Maire for such a kind reply and complement , i tend to have a way with words (being 3rd cusp Libra, Pluto conjunct diana & amor in scorpio in 3rd, pluto being my guiding planet, venus in 4th conjunct p.fort)------------------Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran
well i have
Moon/6th sextile neptune/5thMoon/6th trine pluto/3rdSun/4th trine chiron/11thPluto/3rd trine chiron/11thJupiter/12th Trine part of fortune/4thVenus/4th conjunct Part of Fortune/4thChiron sextile MidheavenNeptune Trine AcendantVenus sextile CeresMercury Trine AphroditePluto/3rd conjunct Amor(unconditional love) in Scorpio
Moon in pisces in 6th of AquariusStellium in 4thVertex in 6th house
(in my solar return for this year in my life, i have moon conjunct chiron in aquarius in 6th, with 6th cusp being Capricorn and Saturn in my 1st house of leo.)
------------------Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22
"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis
"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran
I've got.....
Sun trine jupiterSun quincux SaturnSun contra-parallel neptuneMoon square neptuneMoon quincux ACVenus trine neptune Ac trine neptuneMC quincux neptuneChiron in 10th houseChiron sextile moonChiron trine jupiterAmor trine moonAmor sextile MCAmor quincux neptuneAmor square venusVirgo ACGrand trine: neptune,AC,Venus
Its fine being selfless and all the jazz but in my quest to help others I often become a door mat.... sigh....
However I noticed Nep that you have 4th House Part of Fortune. I do as well and it is EXACTLY conjunct the IC, like it's off by like 10 seconds.
Anyway~ I've always wondered what the significance of PF conjunct IC meant. You always see it conjunct the MC and it's great to have it there...do you know about it's meaning re the IC? Heck, even the 4th house meaning. Anything I've ever seen is kinda vague.
Thanks for your help.M31
AC - Personality; Appearance
IC - Roots, Home, Soul, Ancestry, Private Standing
DC - Primary Relationships, Marriages
MC - Career, Public Standing, Status
My NN is in Aqua and the 6th, which means I should strive to be a selfless person and be of service to others and society. I have to find that balance though, between selfless for the sake of my personal growth and happiness, and being selfish enough for my own well-being and self-perservation.
But I need to get to that pt sometime before I die, or else I'll get reincarnated into a cockroach, for real...
My NN is in the 11th in Gem. Must learn to listen better... gather insight and apply it toward some kind of community project? Maybe through communications or something...
The 6th house is on the opp. end of my T-sq, so if I don't keep busy helping ppl, I might as well implode or drown in self-pity.
Does it infer these areas will be highly fortunate? I can see how my mother was a phenomenal blessing in this life of mine.
I've always been one to embrace, never regret anything I've been through b/c I'm so happy where I am in my life the majority of the time, I figure if anything in the past was different, I wouldn't be this fortunate. Know what I mean?
Sorry to be so dense about it. LOLM31
Selfish: (first of course, lol) 8th house Aries Sun/Merc trine 11th Leo MarsPluto conj Asc. inconjunct Sun/Merc10th house Cancer Moon Uranus opp VenusVirgo risingJupiter square Moon (out of sign, 8 deg orb)
Selfless: Grand trine/Kite, Water, Moon, Neptune, Chiron, kite point:Pluto opp ChironVirgo rising/Pisces DCAqua Saturn 6thPisces Venus 6thPisces Chiron 7th
Don't know if any of those are "classic" aspects, but they feel that way to me.
yes maire it does have to do with being highly fortunate in those area's, including the person with that position possessing an extraordinary soul, capable of great things to offer the world.
About Virgo Asc. I listed it as selfish in terms of being so critical and exacting. I suppose I see those as selfish qualities, at least in myself. I also listed it as selfless for the obvious reasons of service, healing, etc.
Thank you so much for making such a beautifully profound statement about PF conjunct IC &/or 4th house. Really, you touched my spirit with your words. Still bathing in the vibes. Just beautiful.
M31
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